Welcome to digital podcaster. My name is Dylan Schmidt. What's your name? I am coming to you today with a special episode, emergency episode, Pew, Pew, Pew, Pewed Sound Effect here. On the last episode, I featured Jay Yow, who is a podcast producer, audio engineer extraordinaire, And he actually mentioned on our episode that he uses Squadcast with the show he produces, the James Altiture show. And just yesterday, Descript announced that they acquired squadcast and squadcast if you're not familiar or actually Descript if you're not familiar to. Descript is an editing solution for podcasters and content creators, they kind of pioneered the text transcript style editing. So when you edit a word, it edits the actual file. It's become crucial in my workflow. I use it every single day. I use it in all of our content clips projects. It's incredible. It's buggy, but it's incredible. And squadcast is a remote recording solution. So squadcast is kinda like zoom, but more high def. There's a few different competitors in this kind of remote recording space right now. There's Riverside. There's Zencaster. There's clear voice, and then there's squadcast. So Descript acquired squadcast, and they announced that all Descript subscribers will now be getting free access to Squadcast, and I've never been the biggest fan of Riverside because there has been syncing issues with The video and audio being out of sync. It's just this huge hassle. So I've actually been using e cam live for the past 6 months or so for my interviews But I would prefer to use something that's more seamlessly integrated with Descript. So that's what interests me about this whole announcement is I'd love to use squadcast. And since Jay Yao is familiar with it, he's produced shows at the highest level with Squadcast, he actually reached out to me and was like, hey. We should do an episode talking about this. And, yeah, it makes total sense to do because I only have, like, a vague idea of how Squadcast works. He could share his thought process and kinda his workflow and what he knows about it so that those of us using a Squadcast can be more empowered with this tool. So please enjoy my conversation with Jay Yow about squadcast. Let's dive in. This is the show for creative entrepreneurs who have a message to share want to live a life of freedom. Learn how to grow your network and net worth. Here from exciting guests and more. My name is Dylan Schmidt, and welcome to digital podcaster. So this is my first time looking at Squadcast. Jay, as I've already mentioned in the intro, is extremely familiar with Squadcast. This is awesome because I feel like with tech and stuff, I rarely get to be, like, much of a beginner at certain things. They just kinda like, oh, I start clicking around. And When it comes to Squadcast, I've already, like, opened it up, and I'm already seeing, like, oh, there's some things I don't know what they do, and this is so cool. So I what would be cool is too is if we could kind of walk through and we could just chat about this. So you just said, at the bottom of the right of the screen, there's like a waveform I clicked it. And it's showing label recordings. My first question is, it says take 1. So I'm guessing each time you press record and then stop would be considered to take? Yes. That's considered a take. it used to not. It used to just, like, random numbers and then random numbers. And then everyone is like, hey. What if I were to do multiple things at the same, multiple things back to back, then I I have no idea which is which. So that's why they have, like, tick 1, tick 2, but when you download it, it's still, like, random number. It's still random numbers. But the way the number works is the name. So let's say you have Dylan, right, Dylan Smith, Schmidt. I can't even say that name. I can pronounce that word, but, and then it would dash. Yeah. It would dash, and then I believe it's -- You don't wait. You don't know my middle name, by the way. what's your middle name? Your first name. Oh, shit. Wait. What? this So I can play a DJ, technically. You could. Yeah. You can call me if you want. And and we yeah. Yeah. I my middle name is Jay, j a y. Oh, shit. That's why we that's why we've clicked so well together. Yes. Exactly. But, but, yeah, back back the naming, convention, it would be like Dylan, Schmidt, and then I think it's dash, and then it will be a string of numbers. The number is usually day ah, sorry. Usually, year day ah, sorry. Year month date time, I think. Okay. Yeah. And then there's another number, I think. I I could be wrong, though, but it's usually like that. Usually, when I look, if if I download too many files at the same time, like, how do I do to meet which is which? So I'll just look at the time stamp. And I'm looking. It says take 1, 2 recordings. Is that because it's recording both of our files. Is that yep. That would mean? So what what the what Squadcast does, by the way, I'm not sponsored by Squadcast. I I lost I've been using squadcast for the long time. I at my talk Squadcast movement, I always shout them out. I'm like, hey. You know, this is the 1. But, but, yeah, so, when Yow so squad what's that squadcast does is they are recording locally on both side, my side, and your side. And then there, we'll also record a backup. depends which settings you have. I have the classic settings, so it will back up multitrack as well, I think. Okay. So, does that. And then I see a quality check, which is under this part, and it shows j preview and then Dylan preview. And then it looks like there's, like, the waveforms, which I'm guessing is, like, the audio kind of interesting. They use the same icon as, like, the other icon, but, hey, whatever. make it a little confusing, but it shows it. I'm guessing it's like the progress of it backing up locally to each each other's kind of thing? Yep. So what the, no, status, the upload, the upload, the upload progress. So that preview, what it does is so let's say you start recording or retocking, but you do want to stop, but I just want to check how it sounds so you can literally playback right away. I could tell you about how it sounds because that's, I I don't know if this is the, technical issues with a browser or just know one thing about it is that we like, none of the none of the platform give you self monitoring. Like, I can't hear myself. You know, I can hear you, but I can't hear myself. Like, what if I chose the wrong settings and then what happened? You know? if your your your guests doesn't tell you like, hey. You sound weird and you haven't you wouldn't go think about it. You know? Yeah. like this. I've only well, I've used a a few, but at, like, Riverside, for example, there's not a lot. You're not seeing a lot Also, with e cam, there's a whole lot and it's on different windows and it's confusing and it takes forever to figure out something. Zoom, we've kind of all used pretty familiar with it. And I'm liking what I see on Squadcast. I could also see it's also up quite a bit of text. So I could see maybe getting used to like, where things are at, but already looking at now. So under quality check, we've got, that's kind of uploading it in cloud recordings are available after your recording session. How long do you find that it usually takes to get the cloud recordings after you finish for like an hour? Depends because so, the cool thing about I think everyone does this too, but, I think Squadcast paid in it their own way to do it is it recorded in chunks and uploading chunks. So as we were speaking, it was like, you know, recording, it's uploading in chunks. So by the time it ended, you just have to sit there for, like, a couple seconds. Or sometimes it's, like, done uploading and just have to render. yeah, that's why that's why I like, squack has it because it's a lot quicker than Riverside. I think it looks like you have sit longer. Yeah. I I'll forget it. I'll go do something else because it takes that long. Zoom sometimes takes a while too. It's kind of like hit or miss. Yeah. Zoom is just render. You have depends on your computer. You have to render for a long time. But the cloud, it's like the and then it's stuck in the processing. If you do the cloud 1, yeah. The cloud doesn't give you multitrack. Does it? on Zoom? No. I don't believe so. No. I think that's only local recording. Yeah. Yeah. one cool thing about that, Scott has is Yow you see the quality Right? And then on top, you see take 1. So if you click on the take 1, it should you should see both of us as well. So when you click on the take 1, that is, like, the current upload, progress. So you see kids, like, 98% or 97% or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And so I also saw when I went to click on that, there was a button that says edit in Descript, which it must be brand new. Yep. That's a brand new announcement, which, apparently Squadcast got acquired by this script, which is smart on this script part. Yeah. a spike has part because I I don't know if anyone realized if if you know, but Descript does have their recording functions, but I doubt anyone use it because it's -- Yeah. -- because it's not like Squadcast to record cloud on cloud or remotely, it just literally a screen recording. Yeah. I've had team members use it for screen recordings. I haven't even bothered with it. I've recorded quick little intros in the script because it's really easy if I'm editing an episode, then I'll just record just the mic I usually won't do a video or anything, and it's nice to add that in. But, yeah, I like it for intros because it's already up there existing. But as far as, like, screen recordings, I'm like, no. Thanks. Yeah. I never use I never use them, but, it's more on their part because Riverside has the only good thing now. Right? The riverside is that you can edit and, you know, in in Riverside or whatever. But because it's all clumped together, so you can't really do too much. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. No. It makes a total sense. And I just published our first episode together. I was gonna wait Oh, gosh. I was like, wait. What? Yeah. I'd like I know I just kind of well, because when I were recording this one, Oh. And so I kind of like am redoing I was releasing episodes every Tuesday. I think I'm gonna increase the frequency, which meant I was like, I gotta break my own kind of rules here. Feels good to break some rules. You know? Oh, yeah. Like, I literally just published ours. I was gonna wait. so I'll have to share that info with Yow. But -- Oh, that would be awesome. -- but I noticed in the episode 2, And I did it very unedited. I edited out beginning it ends, but I left it really raw, just because was something else. I'm like, if I'm gonna increase frequency, it will decrease certain things. Still edited it, you know, you still sound great. Yep. You look. Thank you. You look great. but we did I did notice that we were talking about, like, towards the end, we were talking about Riverside. And I was sharing my, like, kind of frustrations and things that I weren't isn't very happy with. And, also, I wasn't sold on E CAM, and you had mentioned Squadcast. And then yesterday, the news comes out about Squadcast. And I'm like, this is perfect timing because We also just talked about this. And so now I'm like, well, now we gotta do this almost the part 2, basically, of talking about this. And so, yeah, so I'm excited about this, to, like, learn more about this because I love new software. I love new tools. And when I'm looking at this, it, like, so I see so just some more questions about kind of like the interface of, like, what I see Under quality check, I see it says j preview and then it has it, has the audio little sound waves, and then it has the film strip, like, which is, like, backed up. So then I also hit that take 1 And that's, I'm guessing, just showing up basically the same thing that I saw on the last screen. And then -- Yeah. So what happened is, because sometimes when you record, you have you're recording multiple multiple texts. Right? So maybe at take to a take tree, then the preview will be showing the take 2 and take 3, recording. So it's the preview is showing what's coronary recording. That makes sense. That makes sense. So let's say if you're tick 4, then you're you're prewaving tick 4, but then, you know, and then you can click on the recording to see if everything else is uploaded. Got it. So -- Of course, I just wanna put it, upfront as everything is browser based. Anything that's browser based, it's not 100% stable. It's stable, but it's not 100% stable. Tomorrow of Chrome's like, hey. We have this update. then it might break something and swap cuts on Riverside Yow or boom cuts or everything. So so I generally, like, you know, be as cautious as possible. I have, like, all the tab open, like, recording open. I have the quality check open, and then I have, you know, participants open, chat open. And then, the cool thing that, I just wonder, just a little bit weird about So if you click on my my video, right, if you hover on my video, you see that's, like, 4 icons at the top. Oh, 3 icons. Yep. 3 icons. And then if you click on the one that's like a eyeglasses, it's a shows that Yow click on it. That's a lot more info info on there. So you will have, like, the recording as in, like, my upload status and then what, cameras resolutions I'm using what's my Internet upload and download speed, I think that's, just a regular speed and then the the total file size too. Yow know, you would see, like so right Yow, I'm looking at it. My wave my WAV file is 100 and 35 Mac. My video file is about 3.37 Mac. and then underneath, you see all the bit rate and then all the packet loss. So as you sort of be able to, like, troubleshoot, like, okay. this happened. Okay. It's because of your internet, not because of your, you know, equipment and stuff like that. Yeah. There's a lot more stats going on in here. Is that good? Is that, Is that are the are how are your stats? my sense. Great. Yeah. Like, you know, like, I have, like, I I also know that I have a good Internet. Yeah. So my step my step looks my my step looks looks great. but, you know, all that stuff, I just have it open. I kinda understand it, but I don't fully understand it because I'm not a web engineer or IT engineer. I'm a audio engineer. I sort of I understand it, like, 5%, but it's enough for me to, like, okay. This is what the what's the issue and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it looks like a lot of information if you were on a podcast to, like, look at that. It's probably I'm guessing you probably look at that if there is a bit of an issue or maybe you notice a little lag, that's when you would look at that, maybe. Yeah. Or or, you know, for your producers to look at, like, just to see, okay. You Yow have a bad internet, you know, if you have can you go somewhere to have a better internet or your Wi Fi? It's weak. Can Yow, like, plug it in, you know, your internet or stuff like that? Yeah. And so what do you so I see on the host screen for people just listening, I've got, like, can kind of, like, different things I can, and look at and control on my end, like, my microphone, my camera, where the headphones source coming from noise reduction, hide income video, hide yourself, conference type. Like, I see Jay, and then I see the participants, like, all these different things that I can click As a guest, what are you seeing on your side? It's the same thing, but I can't click it. So I can see I can see your I can see what OS you're using? You're using an Apple. I can see that you're using Chrome. I use I can see that you're recording at 48 kilohertz 1080p, the different per second. I'm I can see that you're using broadcaster. I can see that you're using cam link, and I can see, you know, your speakers or headphones, broadcaster, dual chat, you know. You can't see that I'm not wearing pants. Right? I'm just I I I wish I could help your camera down, but no. No. You can't see my browser history right now. well, Yow know, if you if you if you have to go to prison, I got you. I would go to your home and do it for your browser. That's that's a true friend right there. that's a true friend. And so, and so so you can see all that awesome. And so can you you can't control it, but you can see it. Interesting. And are you on Google Chrome right now? Yep. I'm also Chrome and I'm on the PC. Do people need to be on Google Chrome to join? it's better. on Google Chrome. So Chrome has better capabilities or compatibility with every other software that that involve in, audio and video. Mhmm. If it could use so this is what I heard. I I don't know how to do this. I I heard it from Zach the founder is, the cofounder or the CEO himself is that if you're using Safari on, on Apple, apparently, it's recording on PCM waves rather than the rather than the the the codec. I can't remember what what other codec was it. Opus rather than Opus, but Chrome is using Opus. Like, it still it still is WAVs. Mhmm. But the way to compile the data are different. and maybe is it not as good? Is that kind of the -- PCM, it's better. PCM is what the CD quality is. pulse, what's his PCN name? I spelled something modulations, but I can't remember what the c sent for. But, yeah. And And then yeah. Go ahead. Oh, and so Chrome is PCM or Safari was PCM? Safari was PCM. So did he recommend you? Oh, Safari? Well, He doesn't recommend Safari because even though it's better quality, but Safari is not as stable as scrum. Like, the because of the compatibility, it's not as stable. Interesting. Yeah. So I would still, like, recommend people, like, download Chrome or Chromium. Apparently, there's another browser called Chromium that's, like, open source, Chrome. Got it. And so kind of workflow things, like, before before we even, like, talk more about the software, just from, like, a high level kind of standpoint, when you are producing a virtual interview, for, say, James Altucher and he's interviewing somebody will who will be on on the interview? Will it be you, James, and the guest? Yep. 3 of us. Well, so and also a lot of time is Sometimes James will ask me questions during the interview as well. So, like, then I would just unmute myself and, you know, unhide myself. yeah, so it's Usually, 3 of us, unless there's someone else want to join. But -- And what kind of questions will he ask you? she'll be like, oh, hey, Jay. Do you remember that movie that we that you watch or blah blah blah? Or, hey, Jay, who is the guest that came on? And I jump in, or or what if the gas go on so the the so we'd recently released an episode with doctor Brian Keating yeah, the good friends of the pot, he comes on for a while now, like, almost, like, regular a little bit. So when he comes on, I think he was on another show before, so he has to take a break here and there. So every time he leaves, I would just jump on, like, Yeah. I thought they're very kidding. It's not that great anyway. Just just make fun, you know, just -- Yeah.-- just to kill time. And then they come back and then, you know, the the absolute go. So Yeah. I I think I think more pock more conversation podcasts that have a producer sometimes should have to produce those comes on to talk about -- anything. You know? Yeah. It brings a total realness. I love when they bring the producers on. It just makes it, like, less serious. And it feels like it puts everyone at ease more because it's not this, like, holly, like, Hollywood with, you know, TV, it's like you're not hiding anything, I guess, is what -- Yeah. -- it feels like if you don't acknowledge that that is there. So you're doing that. Now on some like mega podcasts, I have heard of them using something like Squadcast or maybe a different one of the casts Riverside, whatever. but also so like joining Squadcast, for example, and then also having the guest join Zoom as like a backup and using both. Have you done that or used that? I've done that. So that's during the lockdown. Like, right doing the lockdown because Squadcast, Riverside, none of the intern none of the tools out there, Dan, as as stable as Zoom. So we always have, we either have them record locally and then, you know, send us the files while we record the Squadcast or, yeah, we do Zoom and Squadcast. To be honest, I'm not I don't recommend that. because depends what type of interface you have or what type of software you have, sometimes those software use up resources exclusively. It's just like edit pro tools. Right. When pro when you open pro tools, then Sometimes you can't play any other sound at the background because Pro Twos has the priority of, you know, of recording or use or use the auto interface as resources. So A lot of time, I rather what people do is get OBS or some sort of, screen recording software so you can record the screen recording as a backup from produce standpoint. And when you say, like, get OBS, or, well, then you would be getting OBS in your instance, and you would be recording that. So do you do that for every episode? not really. Because, because Squadcast right now has pretty good backup anyway. Right? So even if I use OBS, it's still gonna be not gonna be multi frac. So might as well just use their pro use their use their backup, but at the same time, you know, Yow know, then I can free up some resources, then, you know, if I have to jump in, my my stuff is not messed up and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. unless you do a really, really big show, like, really, really big gas, then, you know, then if you want to want to risk it, then then feel free to do it. The the best would be, if you have, like, if you are a producer and then you have I wouldn't say big interface, like, maybe 4 in, 4 out. Then what you could do is you've you send an additional out to your Zoom recorder, and it'll record the audio that way. Like, I I bet I could do that with my rodecaster. Do if you have 4 in 4 out, or or you have 2 in or or extra out, or even even, if you're not using the speakers, If you're not hooking up to your speakers, then the main out, you can use it as a backup. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that for, like, I guess a serious one, though. Right? Like, a serious interview. Like, if I just it just makes me feel another level of comfort that, you know, this I take this actually interview as serious as any of my should be. I should have 3 backups of this one, actually. I know. You know, like, recording on a row Costa itself. and then recording, you know -- Yeah. -- on recorder -- And a transcriber. -- OBS and then -- I should have a lady sitting here. What what do they call the stone something. Is that a stenographer? Is that a? Yeah. Is this a? I'm just looking this up. Yeah. A person whose job is to transcribe speech in shorthand. Yeah. A court stenographer. Yeah. And Yow used a stenographer. that would be important. do you now let's run through just some settings here. So I'm gonna ask you them and then you tell me Yow don't have to, like, go too far into each of these, but just kinda like high level what you what you use and, and just any quick thoughts. It doesn't you don't have to have any thoughts. You could just say, you know, whatever. So noise reduction, do you have that on or off? Nope. I have it off. I I I I rather do it in post productions. because then I have the ability to to control, you know, how much. Somebody that, like, is not, Jay. They don't have a Jay. They're not Jay. they don't really know about that stuff. Should they have noise reduction on? Depends. If they're sending it to a editor, Yow know, the address should do it that way unless you just record and then publish, then yes. You should have it on. But if you're not recording publish, you'd record edit and then publish, then then, you know, then you should have it on because when you edit it, I felt like this should be everyone's practice right now. You once you add it, you should learn basic mixing. That's why I'm gonna talk about in in podcast movement, actually, not basic mixing, but the underwritten tools and concept, but talking about mixing. You should know what is noise reduction to. You should know what is compressor EQ And then, you should know what is mastering. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. at least a very basic of it. And I wanna learn from you. I am and that's one of those things. Like, I feel like it, just a basic understanding goes so far in knowing what's available. It's like it's kind of like knowing if you were gonna take pictures of something, like, knowing what zooming in does or something. You know, it's like you're zooming in on audio files, and we don't see audio with their eyes unless you have that synthys, Asia, or whatever, then you can actually see. Yeah. Like, then you can see waveform? Yeah. At least the audio is, like, colors. So unless you have that, like, 1% of the human population, you don't get to, like, really think about it in this way. So I think it's such a great, thing that you're teaching there. So noise reduction. So next one on here is hide incoming video. It says it improves performance. I I just show. I mean, I have a good internet that I show, but, like, you can hide it if you if you do want to see yourself. Mhmm. And then you can unhide it, you know, Do you ever, have a guest on that you're like, that's like their internet isn't as good as because everyone is Most people are like, oh, yeah, man. And it's great. And then they get on, and it's like choppy. Do you ever have that? And then you're like, can have to hide the video or something? Yeah. Sometimes. but not all the times, you know, the difference between Riverside and Squadcast, the I found, you know, Riverside user out there, you know, doing don't blame me. This is just my experience. If they make it this far into the episode in their riverside, he's they're on the fence. I'll say that. Ah, oh, you're right. Be like, Yow know, like, in my way, like, you even if it's a little crack of, like, curiosity, you're still there's a crack. And I'm not convinced. I have no stake in the game. I'd neither ones, but I just opened. It's just a tool to me. so sorry. Go ahead. the the thing I found difference between Rivers and Squadcast, I think I I think I mentioned it last time is that, Squadcast, On Riverside. Let's talk about Riverside first. On Riverside, when one of them one of the people that we record has bad incident had you will see pixelated. Like, every like, either everyone would pick be pixelated or that one person would be pixelated and you can't really see Squadcast, on the other hand, if it's really bet if someone has bad Internet, you still see them, maybe lower resolutions, but not pixelated. But you might get a little bit of audio delay, but not as crazy. Like, you might have to wait for 1 or 2 seconds. Whereas on Riverside, they might glitch. You might not be able to hear what they say, and it's pixelated. It's like zoom when it's when someone has bad Internet. Mhmm. Mhmm. Yep. Yep. Yep. Got it. That makes sense. Yep. I love that. Okay. And I love how clear it is. It says improves forms. It says what it does versus like an icon that's like, I don't know what any of this does. so it says, then also hide yourself Altucher will still see you. Is that for people that just don't wanna see what they look like? Yeah. I get that. I have a mirror. next to me with a it's like a little closet. And, it's weird. I try to just ignore it because, like, I'm like, I don't wanna I can't believe you have a mirror in there because I didn't think it was -- It was just-- Isn't is isn't mirror? It's one of the most reflective surfaces. Yeah. I mean, it just it's it's right there. I don't wanna look at it. It's weird. Like, looking at yourself talking about this. It just existential crisis. What if what if you see someone walking out from the mirror? Then this is the start of a movie that's like probably a David Fincher movie or something like, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And then I'm like, Jay, I see. And then whatever I'm seeing in there. I see dead people. That would be the twist. that would make a lot of sense with the town I moved in. It's very old town. Got kind of spooky vibes. Right. So conference type is the next thing under here. Classic conference. I like they call it conference too. Like, that's kind of kind of old school. I feel like we're, like, only really doing podcasts on here. I chose Dolby voice conference because, like, Dolby just seems like legit, but what can you tell me a little bit about those? I do classic. I I just prefer not to have any processing on any of my audio files when I get them. Yeah. And then I think the classic I think they have different didn't they have, like, difference, to show what's the difference, right, the classic, you get to record everything even on cloud separately or something like that? It says -- And there'll be it's different too. yeah, it'd probably be helpful, and I I'll just read through the bullets. Classic conference, has low latency connection. high audio quality, which is a 128 Kbps and 48 alerts, mixed cloud backups, And then Dolby Voice conference is noise reduction, standard audio quality, which is 12 to 16 kilobytes per second, 40 kilohertz individual track cloud backups. So it looks like it's individual. yeah. So Adobe is individual, but, conference classic is the call recording as a steroid track. So Dolby, like I said before, Dolby, they apply processes already, which I don't really want to. so that I usually go with that's why you that's why in my for James, I still have the classic. I didn't have the Dolby, even though, like, it went on cloud recording would be stable. Right? I still go with Altucher classic one. Got it. Got it. wait. Sorry. I kinda got it. Yes. So you go classic. And I already chose Dolby. So this is just ruined. This interview is just ruined. Yes. Okay. Class of it to record everything again. I mean, it's not that bad. It's not that bad. you know, I think when, when because I I believe I did try a little bit. So I did try the Dolby and then tried the classic. I I still like classic. People still like Dolby. Like, so let's say, like I said, if someone is a new broadcaster, that they want to do any plus processing on their end at the end of time, then they go over to Dolby. You know? Got it. It's gonna be a little better. maybe just a little bit less flexibility. But -- Yeah. And then stuff like yeah. Got it. the next one is toolbar layout. It says long hold on a toolbar item to customize your layout. Oh, I didn't see that. That's my that must be really new. I I never touched that before. don't really care about the toolbars layout. So -- I don't even know where the tool bar is. I'm Long. The bottom? I I guess it's the bottom one where it's, you know, when they have, like, mute, mute microphone recording or whatever. I guess that's the one. I'm long holding on an item, though, and it's not doing anything. So -- I wonder if you can only do it. Oh, while you have the quiz. Yeah. Well, not recording. Got it. and then it says recording format. All participants on stage will have their audio and video recorded. Schedule a new session to change to audio only. Okay. So my quest one question for you is when it comes to scheduling, so one thing that Riverside did in in ECAM has 2, which I was a little bit confused. I even reached out to Squadcast support. is they basically those other ones give you a link to your I look at it like, you know, like a studio, like, This is the same link for all of the sessions. And I think you can create individual links, but, like, it's just so much easier to use the same link for the sessions. you don't get mixed up and going to the wrong room and stuff. With Squadcast, do you have, do you have, like, one link that you use for the show, or are you creating individual links for every episode? individual link for every episodes, which I like better because, you know, Like I said, like, you know, I can see shit. See, I send it send the right link or do I send the wrong link or or if the so the the other person wouldn't be wouldn't, like, accidentally join my room, just in case. You know? Mhmm. So, yeah, I like I like individual link better. Got it. And are you doing back to back episodes recording them sometimes? Is that -- Yeah. Okay. So that probably-- Sometimes. Yep. -- things more sectioned. Got it. yeah. So so, you know, like, they can sometimes, you know, if the if the interview went horrible, you want to get off quicker and then chat with the boss, And then you're gonna use another link. That wouldn't be, like, in the same room while we're chatting. Right? So -- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Okay. So you'll do the individual links. And do Yow, like, your guys workflow say someone is like, like, how like, say someone's like, yeah. I'd like to come on the Squadcast, and we're talking about, like, a virtual interview here. Mhmm. I know it'd be different for in person. What's your workflow like when it comes to like, hey. Because when because you're doing individual links, how how do you schedule that? I guess that is what I I my question is because trying to think of how that workflow is So I booked them. They're like, hey. Yeah. I wanna come on a show. I booked them. And, there's too way to do it, but I do it a personalized way. I don't really do just do it in Squadcast, send it to the same person, and then it's the same email every time. no. I I do it personally, I would just create a sessions, in Squadcast, and then I just copy link, copying the stage link, make sure it's stage link, and then sends them And then at the bottom, I will have the instructions like, hey. This is what you do. You're gonna come on. This is is is this, and then make sure I have this, and then that's it. Easy peeping. They're booking through Calendly, maybe? Or something? No. No. No. It's weird. I I I always felt weird with Calendly. I I get it. It's very convenient. I still like the the the human touch. I like to be able to, like yeah. Because I I I I I like to just, you know, get rid of another layer of friction. So he might send you a Calendly. First of all, they have to look at the calendar. They click on it, and then they have to fill in a bunch of stuff. And then they're like, okay. This is the thing. Okay. And then they they got the, kind of the invite. Why not just send them like, hey. This is a this is a time that I have available? Which one do you like? This one? Okay. Sure. Here's a link and then the call today. Or I'll just send you send you the calendar invite. So it's more more personalized that way. Yeah. And and to offer, like, the different thing. I I get, like, bummed when people don't Have Calendly. Oh. I can't stand scheduling. Like, we recorded this not through Calendly, which I'm like, I rarely do, but I just was like, this is a emergency episode. but I just like I of scheduling to me is such a different headspace that, like, I don't find myself in often or want to really hop into. It doesn't feel I just like doing it, I guess, asynchronously. but I do not totally mind when someone when I know that it's like there's a reason behind it when people just don't choose Calendly and their scheduling. It's just feels so laxid. Is that the word? You know? I I I I get it. Like, like, you know, you everything is fast. Everything is, you know, like, everything. It's, it's automated, and it's it's great. It's fast, and you can see Yow know, what's what's there and what's not there. I just personally prefer to, like, you know, I I yeah. I just prefer, like, personally like, okay. This is the time. Does it work for you? Does it work for me? Yeah. Sure. Let's put it in the calendar. Yeah. Yeah. And so but you're checking also like, you're checking multiple calendars too. Right? You're looking at I have James kinda changed. Yeah. And so and does he have, like, designated podcast days that he's just like, no. Oh, he has designated chest day that I can't touch, but he doesn't have a designated podcast day. I love that. I don't know the weekend. I assume. Yeah. and so you're getting that. And then do you send so at what point of the workflow are you grabbing the guest information, like, if they're gonna be promoting something, uh-uh, anything like that, like, even a headshot or something. This is this is the weirdest thing. If they have publicists, they have to go to their publicist. If it's just themself, I always want, you know, to get to be as comfortable as possible. I would just send them the picture. Can I use this? Blah blah blah. Or and the other thing I'm not sure if you if you if you've realized this or if you you know, cities along your podcast journey, no one's want to promote your thing. It's not not they don't want to promote your thing. They it didn't have time to cost them write a tweet and tweet it out. so a lot of time would be just tag them on Twitter or or Instagram or whatever so they would just click that redo it button. Oh, yeah. I alright. Sorry. I should say, like, a short bio or any any, like, any of the things that you might include in, like, the show notes, if you were to include something in the show notes, kind of like anything that's other than scheduling, I guess. You know what I mean? Like -- Yeah. We I would just do it, or just do it after, usually, after the year before because James doesn't do intro. during the show. So you do hit re record intro separately. Got it. On squadcast too? On squadcast. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Because they'll I'll be coming on, and then he'll be coming on. Sometimes he do it, you know, by himself, something like, Jay, blah blah blah blah. You know? Yeah. during the same session, like, right after? Or -- Sometimes right after. Sometimes not. Sometimes it's, like, 2 weeks now. Sometimes, like, oh, I'm busy. Just -- Yeah. -- just do it 2 weeks after. I'm like, okay. Yeah. Does it does it stress you out sometimes if, like, there's a publishing date? Yow guys publish on, like, a specific day? Yeah. Choose answers. Yeah. It does. It does. It does. I'm like, oh, we really need this. Can you just jump on, do it really quick one, 5 minute? 2 minutes or whatever. And you're like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I know what you mean. I could only imagine, what that that would be like. Of course, because because you're aware of the dates and you can only get so far ahead, because you're like, I gotta export this and I gotta add that this and that. awesome. Awesome. So and do you try to give him any information before he required that intro, or are Yow you know? He usually so he's a he's a He's a very intensive researcher. He reads and research people by himself. I I would send him like, oh, this is this is this, look, this is this, but he would do everything by himself. So a lot of the time it comes out here, we just do his thing his things. Yeah. That part is nice. You know? Yeah. That that's cool. That's really cool. Yeah. Someone with with, like, a brain like his definitely is probably out of -- How you? It's definitely, like, out of the normal. You know? I have no idea how he's brain, Alexman. Like, I don't need a -- He's just like, oh, yeah. I I it's like, oh, I remember this this this system. Like, how the hell do you know all this thing? That's why he probably likes just though too. You know? Yeah. It's it's trying he's trying to get the rating back. But at the same time, I think he's almost at Sherlock a little bit. Like, he will know high level stuff, but very low level stuff. He has no idea. Like, like, how, like, Yow this car works. So what do you need to do to start the car or whatever? Like, then he's like, oh, I have no idea what how how any of that works. There's theatrical beauty in that. and we're looking back at Squadcast here, like, I'm noticing, like, there is a lot or little. And once you probably get in here and you get more familiar with it, you probably tune out a lot of the things -- Yeah. -- then they just become second nature. Does it save your settings? Like, I noticed I had to enter my name a couple times. I'm like, what the heck? The the only the only thing that Yow didn't save is the name. It doesn't save the name. That's so weird. No. But it's, like, in settings, it saves the settings. Like, the settings as in, like, you know, because setting I solid settings is back end. This one's saved, whereas names is front end, so it doesn't save. Interesting. I think, one of the last couple things here So one is do you use the backstage area? Not a lot because the backstage according to Zach is that let's say if we doing this right now and then we want and then we have audience, I think it's up to 10, yeah, you know, 10, including backstage and the front stage. So if you have, like, person wanna come on just listening to us, while we will record, then you put them in backstage. But, yeah, I -- Okay. You don't really have that. If you're gonna rotate people out, Yeah. It's kinda confusing too in a way, though, but okay. Good to know. Yeah. Yeah. Because, I don't we don't have audience set in. Yeah. The different yeah. Riverside's one good thing about Riverside is that they do live stream. You can live stream on in Riverside itself. but we don't do that. So that's why we, you know Yeah. Currently. Currently, right. They as far as, like, capabilities go, yeah, I don't see that part. They're gonna add it because it's a whole different beast in term of coding it. Mhmm. But with the script, you never know? The script doesn't do live thing anyway. The script is just a edit thing. So -- But they just keep on those. Yeah. I felt like I liked this better. I'd rather them not trying to find some crazy new functions that no one's probably gonna use and then break the whole thing. You know what I mean? I want face filters. I want sound I want training audios. I want little -- Wait. Wait. Are are you gonna do the the TikTok NPC? Yes. Yeah. Ice cream's so good. ice cream so good ice cream so good ice cream so good. I scream so good. I know. something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Just gonna keep everyone on their toes is what I'm gonna do. Yep. And then just as in terms of other features, just like at the bottom, I'm noticing of their screen share, which is cool, And then there's take squad shot. I love that they have a branded name for, like, a screenshot. I'm just gonna press this a screenshot. Let's just Oh, we got a 5 second countdown here. Hold on. Yeah. This is far too long for this. I think 5 oh, shit. I should look at it. Let's do one. Oh, yeah. Wait. I should have talked during it too because Oh, wait. Oh, Yow may have to talk. No. That's good. That's good. Let me just download that. Okay. Yeah. So 5 seconds, I think it's fine. Sometimes people doesn't doesn't pay attention. You know? Like, you click squad cards, squad, you know, squad show or whatever for 3 seconds, and they were like, oh, come look at it. Come look at it. Come look at it. Come look at it. Come look at this. You know? Yeah. So does it count down on your screen right now too? Yep. Yep. That's cool. And then it opened oh, it's putting it together, and then it I cool. I'm just gonna save that one, set it as my wallpaper, Awesome. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Too bad. Zack is not here. Yeah. Exactly. alright. Last things, is there anything else we should know about this? Oh, one thing about the screen share, I don't know if they have fixed it. For the the screen share so let's say if we you do a screen share, you record the screen share. Everyone is on multitrack. Screen share on multitrack. screenshot doesn't record sounds, I believe. and -- That's good. -- screen share has its own timeline. Yow you have to look at the recording, and then you have to look at, okay, I'm screen sharing starting at 43 minutes. So you have to note that Yow then Yow move your screen share's timeline backwards. Does that make sense? Yeah. That is it does make sense, and that is annoying. And -- Because, like, it's there's pro accounts. I think the pros that it's not using any of your resources right now. That should. conned is that, yeah, you have to manually. Yeah. That's that's a good point. yeah, I wish there was some, like, if it were me designing this, I'd make the recording, like, way bigger or something just. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's my main complaint. I've been talking about it even on this stage. Like, Really? Last year in the podcast movement when I that's where I met Anna, is, you know, I was talking about, you know, things Yow should Look at, the checklist for remote recording. So the settings for remote recording. Yeah. And then one thing I'm like, oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then one is I always look at the recording tab. and then and then put the recording tab small at the bottom. See this recording tab? C Squadcast you have to make that bigger. Yeah. Like, make it I'd say make it ugly if it's not recording and make it beautiful if it's recording. Yep. Because it should be like piercing your eyes that you're not recording, like, you know, like, it should just be, like, make it obvious. Yeah. I think e cam did a good thing is I think when it's recording the whole border of the window is red. Right? Or what's that? Or what's that? So it's pretty confusing on e cam. Actually, when looking at the different screens, It is pretty confusing because I'm also recording just to my computer. I think it's different than if you're streaming. Oh. But, yeah, but it's quite I'm not dislike and get it. It just it's one of those things that, like, it can't be big enough. I did just mess with the screen too, so it's just you and I that I see on here. And I really like that the different view can be kind of changed and messed around here. It feels like I can focus on the, conversation a little bit more. Yeah. If you just have yourself. sorry. No. just have me. Yeah. You know, definitely not myself. -- look at yourself. Yeah. Just listening just listening to Yow, looking at myself, that would be definitely. this is awesome. This has been so much help. Thank you, Jay. Walking us through this. Yeah. we didn't talk about this script. No. I'll although also one more thing too is with the chat, is there anything we should know about the chat? Oh, yeah. So chat, when you type, that chat, I felt like it's always hit on this. when you type so make sure you type at the stage that was sent to everyone on the stage. or Yow type to to everyone means, people on the back stage can see it too. But and then apparently there's a chat group I think that chat is like, we get this, read this thing ever. And then even so let's say if I type something, the notification is not prominent enough. to see, like, okay. There's a chat in there. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And that seems kind of, like, even zoom sometimes. I'm like, I didn't see this. Oh, yeah. I didn't see this. Yeah. Do you know any, like because this is pretty focused in, and I gotta jump in just a couple of minutes. So I don't really go too deep into Descript, but I did notice something before you hopped on, an in descript when I opened it up and I hit new, which I would normally hit like a new video project. it says Yow remote recording. And there there's, like, different options. There's new video project, new audio project, new video message, and new remote looping, which is -- Was it something new? I didn't I didn't I didn't have that. Yeah. I think this is, like, in the most recent update. So we might have to do a third session when we kind of know more about when, Descript kind of integrates more too because they said that they're just phase 1, phase 2 is gonna be even more. I do remember what's that phase 2? I don't remember either off the top of my brain, but I oh, yeah. I can tell you right here. So phase 2, it says in phase 2, we'll fully integrate Squadcast tech into the script and wind it down as a standalone service. That means you'll be able to make remote recordings from the Descript app and have them ready to edit as soon as you're finished. We're working on this, but don't have an exact date yet. stay tuned for more on that in the coming weeks. So -- That's gonna be a hard -- Yeah. So, you know, it's not gonna be an overnight thing. But for now, we got Squadcast, and that's pretty exciting. Jay, I gotta hop. Yeah. Thank you seriously so much for helping us all out, figure this service out better, but also become more empowered. I need to make a cheat sheet with all of the recommendations you have because that will cut down the mistakes by tenfold. Thank you so much. Alright. Thank you.